tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post5722603973876445386..comments2023-10-10T03:21:23.580-04:00Comments on Motown Sports Revival: Top 100 Hockey Players of All-TimeJakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-12374985168385813632020-01-07T11:17:40.109-05:002020-01-07T11:17:40.109-05:00Why is Clark Gillies an honourable mention? Other ...Why is Clark Gillies an honourable mention? Other than the 4 Cups he won he never accomplished anything. I know you've probably long forgotten about this blog but hopefully you can someday answer not only my question but all these other people. Thanks Jake. (P.S. I'm not from Detroit but the Wings have always and will always be my #1 fav team :)<br />Parkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-73383359623235399932015-06-01T19:43:20.944-04:002015-06-01T19:43:20.944-04:00Is it just me or is Mats Sundin not in there?
Is it just me or is Mats Sundin not in there?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-67006366709033125622013-06-26T16:35:35.847-04:002013-06-26T16:35:35.847-04:00OK, You have Orr @ #2, did you notice no one else ...OK, You have Orr @ #2, did you notice no one else ever came close to what he accomplished with 2 good knees? Not too shaby that he not only played in the Canada Cup with no cartlige in his knees....but was still the best player on the ice. If only they had the medical technology available then that we have now, the years he played would have even been so much further off the scale and he would have had anothe 10 years tacked on and there would have been no doubt to your 95% doubters. Orr was like Howe, he played hard and if you gave him $^^$# he dropped his gloves unlike the guy you put at #1. I loved #99 but Orr was the best..and yeah, I'm from Boston, what about it? While I'm here, Bourque and Park should have been higher too. As Johnny Person use to say ' that Brad Park, he could stick handle in a phone booth' ( for you young guys a phone booth was a 3' x 3' structure that had a thing called pay phones in them people used before cell phones )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-74633191797405782992012-03-21T17:48:17.627-04:002012-03-21T17:48:17.627-04:00I think leaving out Pierre Turgeon and John LeClai...I think leaving out Pierre Turgeon and John LeClair off even honorable mention was a mistake. I would have put Lemiuex at 2. Otherwise strong list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-91137193854290499532011-11-29T20:24:39.788-05:002011-11-29T20:24:39.788-05:00What about Bobby Clarke finishing 5th all-time in ...What about Bobby Clarke finishing 5th all-time in plus/minus category?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-63195012318909099002011-08-12T18:00:52.547-04:002011-08-12T18:00:52.547-04:00Jake,
I like how your list shaped up for the mos...Jake, <br /><br />I like how your list shaped up for the most part. However if you were judging best hockey players, not best hockey players with the most hardware, Gilbert Perrault should have at least cracked the top 50, and Pavel Bure should have never slipped down to 99 and no way in the world should have been behind Selanne. Selanne had an amazing rookie season putting up 76, and deserves a place on this list, but perhaps at the very bottom of it.Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-1315051180554374142011-05-07T16:34:26.633-04:002011-05-07T16:34:26.633-04:00Good job but your missing some key players.Tim Tho...Good job but your missing some key players.Tim Thomas,Sidney Crosby,Alex Ovechkin and Evgenei Malkin.Also Mario Lemieux is better than Gordie Howe.In the end good list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-63979762945830421112011-02-25T05:55:39.148-05:002011-02-25T05:55:39.148-05:00I think Henrik Sedin would be on the list at this ...I think Henrik Sedin would be on the list at this point, even without any stanley cups. Probably somewhere around 80th, he's not as good when his brother is out. If they manage to win cups then H would go higher and Daniel might get on the list. Crosby should be up there around 30-40. He was on pace to have the best season in 30 years before being derailed by injury. Plus a cup now and some individual hardware. You put lebron (high up) on your NBA list despite no trophies, Crosby easily is one of the most talented players to ever play the sport. Stamkos will probably retire deserving some place in the top 100 but not right now. Malkin might warrant a spot. Pavel Datsyuk definetely deserves a spot, I think at this point in his career he's the best Russian player ever in the NHL. Vinny Lecavalier was the best player on a stanley cup winning team and has put up respectable numbers, that should warrant some attention. Danny Briere is an incredible scorer that nobody ever seems to pay attention to (out of philly), and while he's never won a cup he's had impressive scoring runs in the playoffs on the Sabres and Flyers.<br /><br />Brodeur should be bumped down. He never accomplished anything without Stevens and Niedermayer playing D and Jacques Lemaire coaching trap hockey for them. It's the paul coffey/terry bradshaw type situation where teammates make you look better than you are. Niedermayer should be on the list for his cup wins and just being a top teir Dman over an exceptional and storied career. Anaheim never wins the 07 cup without niedermayer and jersey might not win any at all.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-47669532111780547872011-02-08T16:28:56.244-05:002011-02-08T16:28:56.244-05:00You said about Lalonde "He also scored a goal...You said about Lalonde "He also scored a goal in his first six NHL games which is a record." If you go by first NHL games I believe Joe Malone holds this record with a goal in his first 14 NHL games, two short of Broadbent's all-time record of 16. <br /><br />Just a little thing but thought I'd point it out. Otherwise, great list, even though I'm part of that 5% who puts Orr at the top I won't argue with someone who puts Gretzky up there.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02334468801270092281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-38414046226812202412010-01-28T13:20:51.367-05:002010-01-28T13:20:51.367-05:00Im a big Yzerman fan, I realize him and Messier ar...Im a big Yzerman fan, I realize him and Messier are often compared and that Messiers stats are a bit more impressive. Gotta love Stevie though, for stickin with the Wings and bringing them there first cup in years. He also sacrificed points by becoming a 2 way player (hence the Selke). Great leader and he was my hero growing up. Id have to agree with you on #25 although when I first saw it I was a bit dissapointed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-52402657737129427232009-10-23T09:15:54.542-04:002009-10-23T09:15:54.542-04:00Bobby Orr should be #1...
Maurice Richard should b...Bobby Orr should be #1...<br />Maurice Richard should be higher.<br />Otherwise, great job! (I am also a fan of Jagr)<br /><br />p.s.You should also give Sidney Crosby a look... He is a very talented player. (sorry if he's already on there, I might have missed him...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-46194251975840935632009-10-08T00:24:58.481-04:002009-10-08T00:24:58.481-04:00A few comments:
Roger Crozier shouldn't be ov...A few comments:<br /><br />Roger Crozier shouldn't be overlooked. Invented the modern butterfly. Calder and Smythe trophy winner. Reached cup finals twice with teams that shouldn't have made it that far. And he was the ultimate "play through anything" player (broken cheekbone, broken jaw, sprained knee, ulcers, pancreatitis and more.) <br /><br />Vladiclav Tretiak was mentioned by someone who wrote a comment. He gets my vote as most overrated. He was a fine goaltender, but was neither an innovator like Sawchuk, Hall & Plante, nor a clutch player like Gerry Cheevers, Patrick Roy or Billy Smith. Tretiak let his team down in '72 when they needed him most -- in the last 3 games. I can't see any reason to include Tretiak as an all-time great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-56667094845161470452009-08-03T22:13:00.491-04:002009-08-03T22:13:00.491-04:00Since you’re only 10 and a half, I’ll let everythi...Since you’re only 10 and a half, I’ll let everything slide. Dionne is #42. Sakic is #37. Malone is #33. Messier is #18. Gilmour is #91. As for Makarov, I’ll refer to point #4 all the way back at the beginning of this post. Read it and you should understand. Borje Salming is on the “Honorable Mention” list and that’s where he belongs. Take care!Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-55468145395466322752009-08-03T18:42:31.489-04:002009-08-03T18:42:31.489-04:00Wheres Sergei Makarov?
I'm only 10 1/2 and i&#...Wheres Sergei Makarov?<br />I'm only 10 1/2 and i'm outraged. Doug Gilmour? Borje Salming? JOE MALONE? All of these people have bad listings. Oh, and i got more.Marcel Dionne? Mark Messier? JOE SAKIC?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-68378222658895010062009-07-30T18:29:38.355-04:002009-07-30T18:29:38.355-04:00Good job and fun to read. I must say however that ...Good job and fun to read. I must say however that I don't agree with You regarding Peter Forsberg. In my humble opinion he is the best european ever to play in the NHL. Take a look at "the Peter Forsberg show" at youtube (7.34 long).<br /><br />Cheers/MichaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-1078811485821381772009-07-06T23:42:38.535-04:002009-07-06T23:42:38.535-04:00Good list and well thought out. The Orr/Gretzky de...Good list and well thought out. The Orr/Gretzky debate will rage forever, but Orr's knee problems really hurt him. It is amazing he could do what he did in a way tougher NHL and the medical care of 40 years ago. I agree, Wayne 1, Orr 2. Personally, I'd maybe bump Bossy a few notches. The guy was lights out if he had the puck from the top of the circle in. Short career with back problems, but look at those numbers...wow!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-42204243871180407272009-07-01T21:43:03.202-04:002009-07-01T21:43:03.202-04:00Thanks for humbly pointing out a typo. If Bobby H....Thanks for humbly pointing out a typo. If Bobby H. had 2808 career points, he'd be the 2nd greatest player of all-time.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-56105437712652549982009-07-01T17:36:13.481-04:002009-07-01T17:36:13.481-04:00Uhmmm pretty good list but just so every one knows...Uhmmm pretty good list but just so every one knows bobby hull didn't have 2808 points in the NHL and WHA i checked if you add his WHA totals and his NHL totals its 1808 so get your facts rightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-38603539821772181382009-06-20T21:56:48.856-04:002009-06-20T21:56:48.856-04:00stumbled upon this entry thru google, realize this...stumbled upon this entry thru google, realize this is an old post so i dont know if anyone will see this, but it's important to keep in mind that when Richard was playing, there was a lot of quebecois players were discriminated against by the anglophone-run league. if the league had not been biased towards him because of that, it's likely he would have won more awards.Noah's Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03409533470569247585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-64632658392806237592009-06-13T10:41:13.201-04:002009-06-13T10:41:13.201-04:00Nice list! I like it and agree with it. You make p...Nice list! I like it and agree with it. You make pretty good sense in your rankings explanations with cold hard facts.<br /><br />My Top 5 was always:<br /><br />Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Howe, Richard, but I can why you dropped Richard to 8th. Makes sense. Good stuff.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07555522331507807251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-17554056308457812162009-06-12T22:17:57.781-04:002009-06-12T22:17:57.781-04:00Given your criteria I would basically agree with y...Given your criteria I would basically agree with you but really Howe should be #1 or #2. He cannot stack up to Gretzky's numbers or Orr's originality but the fact is that Howe was excellent at every position. He dominated in all aspects of the game. There has never been another player who was as well rounded. He is like a big Zetterberg who can kick some butt!<br /><br />Gretzky had to have an enforcer protecting him. Howe was both an enforcer, a scorer, a guy who would clear the net, go to the corner, and set up plays. I understand your logic but I think the guy who was truly the best all around hockey player was "Mr. Hockey".<br /><br />Also, it is nonsense to even be mentioning Crosby or Malkin in this discussion... perhaps in 20 years, but not now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-70568067798963512712009-06-09T22:36:10.268-04:002009-06-09T22:36:10.268-04:00if crosby is an honorable mention perhaps malkin s...if crosby is an honorable mention perhaps malkin should be as well, at least by the time the list is revised malkin will have asserted himself as a top player despite the short length thus far in his careerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-87324922570191430002009-06-09T13:00:02.759-04:002009-06-09T13:00:02.759-04:00Overall, a pretty good list with one exception. M...Overall, a pretty good list with one exception. Messier should be a LOT higher than 18. He is the # 2 scorer in NHL history, has six Stanley Cups, was the first player ever to Captain two different teams to the Cup, could skate, shoot, hit, fight, pass, play the PP, kill penalties, and win faceoffs. He didn't have a weakness to his game. On top of all that, he was probably the best leader in all of sports during his time. Finally, you use the argument of him playing with Gretzky. Gretzky is clearly the greatest of all time & # 1 in my mind, over Orr. However, it should be noted that Gretzky won all of his Cups with Messier, that Mario won his only two Cups with Jagr, and that Orr and Espo each won their only two Cups with each other. Messier won four Cups with Gretzky and then TWO more (Mario's Orr's and Espo's career totals) without the Great One. The 1990 Oilers were a highly watered down version of the Oilers in the 80's that wouldn't have come close to winning without Messier. The 1994 Rangers had one of the greatest defensemen ever to play in Brian Leetch, but did not have another true superstar at forward, not to mention the infamous 54 year curse. Messier should be in the top 5 of all-time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-11981266637671928822009-05-26T18:18:48.150-04:002009-05-26T18:18:48.150-04:00I have no problem with someone wanting to put Mari...I have no problem with someone wanting to put Mario at #2 or #3. #1 is out of the question, in my opinion. Gretzky played at the same time and did so much more even taking into consideration Lemieux’s cancer absence. Orr and Lemieux is a good battle but Orr was revolutionary. The league had never seen anyone like him and hasn’t since. His resume is more impressive than Mario’s, in my opinion. Howe and Mario is totally up to interpretation. Howe’s longevity is tough to beat. Plus, he won twice and as many Stanley Cups and Hart Trophies. It would take quite an argument to prove that Mario should be ahead of Howe. I’ve rationalized my rankings. Care to rationalize why Mario should be ahead of Orr and Howe? “Because he was better” doesn’t count as an argument.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-14564953407532080612009-05-26T15:53:05.390-04:002009-05-26T15:53:05.390-04:00how Lemieux is not #1,2 I don't understand. or at ...how Lemieux is not #1,2 I don't understand. or at least 3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com