tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.comments2023-10-10T03:21:23.580-04:00Motown Sports RevivalJakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comBlogger1966125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-12374985168385813632020-01-07T11:17:40.109-05:002020-01-07T11:17:40.109-05:00Why is Clark Gillies an honourable mention? Other ...Why is Clark Gillies an honourable mention? Other than the 4 Cups he won he never accomplished anything. I know you've probably long forgotten about this blog but hopefully you can someday answer not only my question but all these other people. Thanks Jake. (P.S. I'm not from Detroit but the Wings have always and will always be my #1 fav team :)<br />Parkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-47963916525856482042015-12-15T12:47:42.638-05:002015-12-15T12:47:42.638-05:00Thanks for the random post. I can't remember t...Thanks for the random post. I can't remember the last time I looked at my blog. It seems like another life. All is well. Kids are growing fast but I'm thankful I have a front row seat to see it happen.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-3911764486591751872015-12-13T05:33:41.832-05:002015-12-13T05:33:41.832-05:00This is a random post for 2:22 in the morning, but...This is a random post for 2:22 in the morning, but I came upon your blog wondering why Babe Ruth only won the MVP one year. Google directed me here and I read the article you wrote and enjoyed it. <br /><br />I noticed the blog hadn't been updated in a while so I decided to look at the last post made just for the hell of it. It's kind of funny you referenced that exact article about Babe Ruth :) And nowadays Sepp Blatter is getting investigated, and Bud Selig is assuredly off somewhere still being an idiot this very minute -- so somethings change and some stay the same...<br /><br />Anyway, that last post made me think about where I'm at in life, and where you must be now with a ten year old and an eight year old - hope all is well and life is treating you well. I'm going to go read a few more of your articles while I'm here. Thanks :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-43594594407901134432015-07-23T02:14:30.954-04:002015-07-23T02:14:30.954-04:00I Like Football, Very interesting post Top 100 Pla...I Like Football, Very interesting post Top 100 Players in football..<br /> Jeff Adamshttp://www.nfl.com/player/jeffadams/2534763/profilenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-73383359623235399932015-06-01T19:43:20.944-04:002015-06-01T19:43:20.944-04:00Is it just me or is Mats Sundin not in there?
Is it just me or is Mats Sundin not in there?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-65978038176037577162014-02-02T01:10:21.695-05:002014-02-02T01:10:21.695-05:00I find it odd that Rickey Jackson is not on this l...I find it odd that Rickey Jackson is not on this list. He was one of the greatest linebackers of all time and was very similar to Lawrence Taylor. Ricky had 128 sacks, 40 forced fumbles, and 1173 total tackles. LT had 132.5 sacks, 33 forced fumbles, and 1008 tackles. LT was ranked 3rd and Ricky wasn't on the list. That makes no sense to me. Other than that I thought the list was pretty good.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15250603460043913427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-17078428168768804892014-01-17T18:21:56.526-05:002014-01-17T18:21:56.526-05:00Interesting to read this post from 2007--especiall...Interesting to read this post from 2007--especially including the players with "a decent chance" of reaching 300 games. Johnson did it. CC still has a good shot (205 wins at age 33). Buehrle might have an outside chance (186 wins at age 34). No one else under 35 is even halfway there.<br /><br />I generally agree with your myths, and I definitely agree another 300-win pitcher is likely, even if not in the imminent future. But in retrospect, the aftermath of the steroid era may be taking its toll on pitchers. Compared to 10 years ago, it does seem like pitching injuries are much more common and last much longer.Zachary Schunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13095222899589522265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-67006366709033125622013-06-26T16:35:35.847-04:002013-06-26T16:35:35.847-04:00OK, You have Orr @ #2, did you notice no one else ...OK, You have Orr @ #2, did you notice no one else ever came close to what he accomplished with 2 good knees? Not too shaby that he not only played in the Canada Cup with no cartlige in his knees....but was still the best player on the ice. If only they had the medical technology available then that we have now, the years he played would have even been so much further off the scale and he would have had anothe 10 years tacked on and there would have been no doubt to your 95% doubters. Orr was like Howe, he played hard and if you gave him $^^$# he dropped his gloves unlike the guy you put at #1. I loved #99 but Orr was the best..and yeah, I'm from Boston, what about it? While I'm here, Bourque and Park should have been higher too. As Johnny Person use to say ' that Brad Park, he could stick handle in a phone booth' ( for you young guys a phone booth was a 3' x 3' structure that had a thing called pay phones in them people used before cell phones )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-35488331563690069092013-04-22T23:13:22.090-04:002013-04-22T23:13:22.090-04:00coolcoolGerrardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-70441221555066743962013-04-16T00:38:10.283-04:002013-04-16T00:38:10.283-04:00nice list indeednice list indeedGerrardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-79269769028084045962013-04-14T18:01:00.878-04:002013-04-14T18:01:00.878-04:00wheres bo jackson?wheres bo jackson?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-15994449771450301992012-09-04T00:04:13.776-04:002012-09-04T00:04:13.776-04:00I love the list for the most part but putting Ichi...I love the list for the most part but putting Ichiro Suzuki ahead of Hall of Famer Robin Yount is absurd<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-1688342862888331232012-08-05T10:52:15.483-04:002012-08-05T10:52:15.483-04:00George Sisler? Having the single season hit record...George Sisler? Having the single season hit record doesnt make him a HOFer, no different than Roger Maris (thats generous!) at best. Sisler was the epitomy of a singles hitter, Jeter (barf) deserves to make the list well before him. When you consider the type of game he had, Cobb, Shoeless Joe, and other guys just overperformed him. <br /><br />Duke Snider...at absolute BEST he would be behind Mays, Mantle, Williams, DiMaggio, Griffey, & Bonds (probably a half dozen more I can think of, so youre talking about arguably the #6-25 best OF. Yeah, major snub there...who would you take out to add them?<br /><br />I dont mind if you hate on Bonds, but a) he's top 5, period. I cant tell you who took what with regards to PEDs, and there is no way to figure any of that out, but it doesnt matter - they let him play, and his numbers are Godly. b)Aaron at 11 is an abomination of a selection, same with Nolan Ryan and Lefty Grove. Do you even look at peoples stats at all? Im surpised your list didnt have Chipper Jones #1, and Barry Larkin #2 lol...THAT is how bad that top 20 you have was. <br /><br />I would say that Cobb, Ruth, Mays, Williams, and Bonds are the top #5 in whatever you want after Cobb and Ruth. Everything else is kind of a matter of perspective.<br /><br />Great work.BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793202937414309823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-15099640729078814962012-08-05T10:37:42.010-04:002012-08-05T10:37:42.010-04:00Absolutely great work, and makes a lot of sense ab...Absolutely great work, and makes a lot of sense about 4 years later. Natually, some of the guys who were 'on their way' to being all time greats, your TO/Moss/AP group, have falled hard, and several others (LOVE the mention of Ware and Patrick Willis) probably take certain guys spots away with another year+ of consistent play. <br /><br />I think Aaron Rogers is a great player, but I cant take him seriously in comparison to Montana, Brady, and Young, then you have that next tier of guys like Favre, Manning, Brees, Bradshaw, and looking at those names, I dont see much to make any kind of argument that Rodgers is better than Montana, Brady, Young, Aikman, Favre, Bradshaw, Manning or Brees. He's just another "should be" phenominal player, but he's got a lot of work to do. Most people dont understand that for every Rice there are 1000 'best ever for 2.6 seasons of play' guys in the NFL, so longevity has to be considered. Favre threw a lot of picks, but he also made a lot more plays, without nearly the talent Rodgers has. Give Rodgers 2 more years+ of solid play, then Id consider ranking him with the elites.<br /><br />Offense, in any sport, is always the sexier aspect of winning the game, but defense is equally important (ask the whooped-in-every-SB-we-played Bills) I liked that on all your lists, you make the correct assumptions of who is a more important player, but still gave the right about of respect to the right defenders (or pitchers, etc). <br /><br />Id rank Dieon Sanders no lower than top 10. He wasnt just the best cover-corner ever, he made the difference - ALONE - between who won in 1994/1995. Goes to the 49ers, shuts down Irvin. Goes to Dallas, shuts down Rice. Opposing QB's just would NOT test the guy after his first few years, he would lull them into making a throw and close the gap in like 2 seconds. Sure, it would be great if he could tackle like Lott, but he didnt need to. That WR, with #21 across the line, was not having a career day. He shut down some of the greatest WR to play the game, despite being one of the worst tacklers in the game. He is one of the greatest athletes you'll ever see.<br /><br />I wouldnt touch it, except for minor changes that come down solely to personal prefference. Some guys, Rice/Montana, are just clearly the best, but then you get to that second/third level, its all what you think, there is little seperation. I think you did great<br />1BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793202937414309823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-23518957925656907932012-06-26T01:46:42.036-04:002012-06-26T01:46:42.036-04:00My top 10 list as far as just position players wou...My top 10 list as far as just position players would be: <br />1Babe Ruth<br />2Ted Williams<br />3Lou Gehrig<br />4Willie Mays<br />5Hank Aaron<br />6Ty Cobb<br />7Mickey Mantle<br />8Stan Musial<br />9Rogers Hornsby<br />10Joe DiMaggioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-70521221288049121562012-06-26T01:43:18.635-04:002012-06-26T01:43:18.635-04:00I respect anyone who comes up with an all-time top...I respect anyone who comes up with an all-time top 100 list. That is very difficult to do. Obviously there are a number of different opinions. I disagree with a few players rankings, but good job. I will say one thing, I think people put too much emphasis on how many wins a pitcher has. Yes it's important for the team, but I don't think you can fault a pitcher for being on a bad team. I think ERA and strikeouts more so determine a good pitcher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-60845978412688573052012-06-04T22:44:47.124-04:002012-06-04T22:44:47.124-04:00Eddie "Cocky" Collins 2B Played 24 seas...Eddie "Cocky" Collins 2B Played 24 seasons. .333 career hitter, 3300 hits, 744 stolen bases, AL MVP in 1914, 4x world series champion, HALL OF FAMER. Definitely needs to be on the list wouldn't you say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-74633191797405782992012-03-21T17:48:17.627-04:002012-03-21T17:48:17.627-04:00I think leaving out Pierre Turgeon and John LeClai...I think leaving out Pierre Turgeon and John LeClair off even honorable mention was a mistake. I would have put Lemiuex at 2. Otherwise strong list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-88241639975236273622012-03-05T17:13:18.287-05:002012-03-05T17:13:18.287-05:00As far as the Bird vs Duncan debate. To say that B...As far as the Bird vs Duncan debate. To say that Bird only played in a league with 23 teams and Duncan 30 seems to make more of an argument for Bird as far as I'm concerned. There's more watered down talent now. People forget some of the battles in the East just to get to the finals. an<br />d think that the Lakers Celtics rivlry was the epitome of the NBA's best. But ask any Boston or Philly fan what their plans were every time the Sixers and Celtics faced off in the Bird era. The most ferocious, accomplished basketball I've ever seen, and they were in the SAME division. They talk about having 3 key players to be a winner now. Well, who would your top 3 be from say the 82 Sixers, or the 86 Celtics? How do you think Erving, Malone and Cheeks would fare today? Or Bird, McHale and DJ? Not to mention Parish, Walton and Ainge, or Bobby Jones, Andrew Toney, Lionel Hollins, Caldwell Jones and Darryl Dawkins. Teams were better then, and either of these teams or Magic's Lakers would crush any team of today. What would Chris Bosh do with Kevin McHale? You embarrassed McHale by choosing him so low. This is an awards list more than talent. There wasn't a player in the league who could cover McHale and all the moves he had in the low post. There were very few nights off going against extremely good Milwaukee Bucks teams or Bernard King's Knicks. Marques Johnson, Sidney Moncrief, Paul Pressey and Ricky Pierce of the Bucks, with Sikma and Alton Lister and John Lucas too. I dare say Lister would be a hugely valued commodity today. These were great basketball games to watch with far more talenet on teams that there is today. Teams were deep, with skilled players and not players taught to dunk and beat their chests. <br />Thank youJimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-81857219610418933662012-02-14T11:00:55.641-05:002012-02-14T11:00:55.641-05:00Continued from above...
As for active players who...Continued from above...<br /><br />As for active players who did not make the original list who I think would make it now; I think there are at least five and possibly seven. The “high” debut would go to Drew Brees. I think it’s pretty clear that he has had a better career than Marino. He beat Marino’s single-season passing mark and nearly did it a second time. He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. With the 20-spot drop I mentioned for Marino and the fact that I think Elway still edges out Brees, that would put Brees somewhere between 28 and 45. After that, there is a major run on DB’s making debuts. Ed Reed and Charles Woodson probably jump into the top 50 in that order. Troy Polamalu is probably in that 50-60 range. Aaron Rodgers would be in the last 25 spots or so. I’m non-commital on Brian Urlacher and Darrelle Revis. Urlacher is right on the fringe and Revis probably needs two more seasons of elite play to make it with room to spare.<br /><br />Here’s a little rundown of who I think will make significant jumps onto the list in the next 5-10 years... First, Revis is the best CB I’ve ever seen and the statistical dominance that he has over opposing elite receivers is as impressive of a stat as there is in the NFL today. Deion was great and his ranking on this list reflects that. However, Revis’s anticipatory skills and physicality are truly unique in NFL history. Having said that, if Revis suffers a major injury or fizzles out for some reason, he may not even make it into the top 100. If he keeps his current level of play for the next 5 years or more, he’ll easily be in the top 50 and could be much, much higher than that. Calvin Johnson has the talent and statistical start to his career that, if he continues on his current path, could end with him being the second greatest WR in NFL history. He is a combination of T.O. and Randy Moss which makes for an absolute monster of a player. He just needs to stay healthy which isn't a sure-thing for him. Joe Thomas has made the Pro Bowl in his first five seasons and very well could end up being one of the top 10 OL of all-time. Obviously, he’ll need to keep it up for a number of years since there are quite a few OL who have 10+ pro bowl appearances. DeMarcus Ware, Patrick Willis, Andre Johnson, Julius Peppers, Larry Fitzgerald, Clay Matthews, Jake Long, Terrell Suggs, and Antonio Gates are also players who could jump into the list in the short term. <br /><br />Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger are putting together Terry Bradshaw type careers which would surely land both on the list if they can get another SB victory. <br /> <br />I hope this answers your questions. Keep in mind that if this list got deleted and I had to start over from scratch with no reference point like I did the first time, the list would likely look very different. I could make hundreds of minor revisions to the list if I had hours and days to kill. For the purposes of this post, I simply focused on things that seemed the most obvious to me.<br /><br />Take care!Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-38960321932726994542012-02-14T11:00:40.160-05:002012-02-14T11:00:40.160-05:00It would take more time than I have to retool this...It would take more time than I have to retool this list in a way that I’d feel comfortable with. It took months to put the original list together so you’ll have to understand that I wasn’t able to accomplish much in the 60 minutes I spent trying to answer your question (s). But, here goes…<br /><br />I first went through the list to see if there were players who I think need to be moved up or down. I was surprised that there weren’t more obvious choices. I thought four years would have dated the list more than it did. I expected that—given his abrupt falloff from being an elite back—that Tomlinson would probably slide. However, his overall numbers and accomplishments still probably merit being ahead of Marshal Faulk which would mean—at most—a minimal 1-4 spot drop in the rankings if any. I thought I would see obvious needs to drop T.O., Randy Moss, and Marvin Harrison since all three hit an unexpected wall a year or so after I made the list. However, their numbers still stack up favorably to players rated lower on the list. These three players are nearly indistinguishable statistically yet very distinguishable stylistically. Harrison was not a great playoff performer which I may have overlooked when I made the first list. So, I’d slide Harrison behind T.O. and Moss which would mean a 15-20 spot drop for him. <br /><br />Of all the active players on the list, Brady probably has the most opportunity to move up (of, course, keeping in mind that "moving up" near the top of the list is more significant than moving up near the bottom). I don’t think there’s any reason to move him at this point although that’s probably more out of indifference or laziness. I’d rather just wait and see how things play out over the next few years. He’s been to five Super Bowls and won three. Montana went to four Super Bowls and won four. If Brady wins another Super Bowl, I think he eclipses Montana. His career numbers and averages merit consideration over Montana right now. I think he’s just missing one Super Bowl which would give him a whopping six Super Bowl appearances and four wins. Keep in mind that while winning the Super Bowl is certainly much more impressive than losing the Super Bowl, getting to the Super Bowl is much more impressive than not. Brady may have lost two Super Bowls but he’s already been to more Super Bowls than Montana. <br /><br />I would drop Marino and Staubach 10-20 spots each. I think we’re seeing more and more that elite QBs win Super Bowls. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers have all won Super Bowls. The fact that Marino never did—and the fact that outside of 2-3 seasons he really didn’t have high end statistical production—probably should be taken more into consideration than I did previously. Staubach was great but didn’t play long enough (rather he started too late) to make as much of a difference as some of the other players. <br /><br />I also think Champ Bailey would get a 20+ spot bump simply from adding four more seasons of elite CB play to his resume. Continuing.....Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208921021297172480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-85400967772761987002012-02-13T17:31:02.871-05:002012-02-13T17:31:02.871-05:00I'd like to see this list revised even with mo...I'd like to see this list revised even with more perspective on today's and yesterday's players and How they would rate - higher or lower. Time and perspective always change things.<br /> Please respond even if it moving some player higher up or lowering some an/or adding a few.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-91137193854290499532011-11-29T20:24:39.788-05:002011-11-29T20:24:39.788-05:00What about Bobby Clarke finishing 5th all-time in ...What about Bobby Clarke finishing 5th all-time in plus/minus category?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-65302766826724933502011-11-28T20:04:41.507-05:002011-11-28T20:04:41.507-05:00No Dwight Howard?
I mean, his defense is crazy, he...No Dwight Howard?<br />I mean, his defense is crazy, hes one of the strongest, and biggest guys in the league, and can stuff anyone who comes in his way. I know hes young, but if not yet, he will definitely be one of the best centers to ever play.lilfid726https://www.blogger.com/profile/15503566471746788648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13718554.post-5481452636299515642011-11-28T19:30:13.995-05:002011-11-28T19:30:13.995-05:00Good list, thnx!!!Good list, thnx!!!rafahttp://www.alkachofa.esnoreply@blogger.com